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2015 Rose Bowl T Dubs

I try not to post much about sports here, but this once I'll try to compensate by tying this to social commentary. This is University of Oregon linebacker Tony Washington recovering a fumble by Florida State University quarterback Jameis Winston. Washington returned the fumble for a touchdown that really blew the game open for the Ducks, who went on to win 59-20 and earn a place in the national championship game. Winston's fumble was comical, at least if you aren't an FSU fan, and the internet had a field day with it. (I particularly recommend scrolling down to the video that plugs in pro wrestler Randy Orton as an explanation for both Winston's and a nearby referee's falls.)

After the game several UO players chanted "No Means No," in an apparent jab at Winston, who was absolved of rape charges under circumstances that a lot of people found suspicious. That's a pretty edgy thing to do, and UO coach Mark Helfrich said the players would be disciplined. Meanwhile I'm trying to decide whether it's a sign of a sea change that football players would be taunting an opposition player with such a progressive sexual message.

Weird old world. Go Ducks!



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Jan. 3rd, 2015 08:29 pm (UTC)
I was torn between disapproving of the bad behavior of football players mocking the opposing quarterback on his loss and saying, Yes! Go Ducks!

The man's unlikely ever to face a trial. Being mocked? Not exactly a huge punishment.
Jan. 3rd, 2015 09:10 pm (UTC)
Yes, it's bad form to mock a losing opponent, and Duck fans didn't cover themselves in glory by derisively chanting the Seminole war chant throughout the fourth quarter.
Jan. 3rd, 2015 10:12 pm (UTC)
This story points out that FSU players did not cover themselves with glory towards the end of the game and the post-game either. Here's Kirk Herbstreit disdainfully noting that most of the FSU players went straight to the locker room rather than staying to shake the hands of their opponents as is traditional.
Jan. 3rd, 2015 10:17 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I heard Herbstreit's comments in real time. Apparently those comments had an effect on the UCLA-Kansas St game -- or at least the KState coach referred to them in defending a play that pissed off the coach of UCLA.
Jan. 3rd, 2015 10:18 pm (UTC)
Actually, I guess the K State coach was referring to Herbstreit's comment that the FSU defense had "quit," not his comments about the bulk of the team leaving the filed without shaking hands.
Jan. 3rd, 2015 10:29 pm (UTC)
Yup, just looked it up. *Snap!*
Jan. 4th, 2015 06:15 am (UTC)
I'd be curious to learn weather the Ducks chant was mere taunting -- picking up a somewhat catchy and applicable phrase they could throw at him to rub salt in his wounds -- or if they honestly had a social message in mind.
Jan. 4th, 2015 07:08 am (UTC)
I wonder that too. Denys told me he heard that opposing fans at another FSU game also chanted "no means no," so the UO players could've just been parroting that. Even if that's true, it's still amazing that "no means no" is the message being propagated.
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Jan. 6th, 2015 04:35 pm (UTC)
One thing I read yesterday indicated that the players picked up the chant from the fans in the stands. Apparently that's what I was hearing when I heard them "derisively chanting the Seminole war chant throughout the fourth quarter," as I mentioned in a reply to Kate. They were chanting "no means no" to the Seminole war chant, and that's what the four players did too.
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